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Drunk Wisconsin's avatar

Wow, way to make it political

Ancient Problemz's avatar

We do a little mind-reading and demagoguery as a treat.

Felice's avatar

>They are the first people to complain about the poor customer service a business offers

Did he just call you a Karen?

Drunk Wisconsin's avatar

He didn't call me anything, this is about other (bad) people.

GLO's avatar

Usually you sit back and casually snipe at the culture war but here you are going after the Normie Shmormies directly. This anti normie article puts you firmly in edgelord territory

Ancient Problemz's avatar

An elite cohort, no doubt.

Horus on the Prairie's avatar

Many people are agreeable and don't want to cause drama for themselves or others. This usually works to keep society courteous and functioning, but bad actors take advantage of it to push through unpalatable things that make civilization suckier - although I think the problems you identify are largely confined to certain areas while the rest of the country is proceeding more or less functionally.

Sort of like the "wolves/sheep/sheepdog" trope, maybe you need slightly disagreeable people to stand up to the equally disagreeable and outspoken bad actors.

Ancient Problemz's avatar

If they need disagreeable people, why do they fire them when they stand up?

Horus on the Prairie's avatar

Agreeableness in bureaucracy goes hand in hand with maintaining the bureaucracy itself rather than its actual function, when the latter is forgotten. It takes courage to stand up to the mob, or to stand with someone against the mob. But that's always been the human condition.

As for myself, I held large maskless parties during COVID and tore down the caution tape they put on playgrounds.

JS.Hardy's avatar

Being "normal" is so boring and humiliating that unless you are the elite of normal, the rapidly disappearing archetype of a high paid normie who has good reputation and is love and respected by an IRL community he or she is active in, its unbearable. Thus the aspiring normie can only sustain his or her motivation with constant external validation from others that they are on the right path.

The rise in "grow up and be a normie" and millennial self-hate articles on the Stack indicate that these normies are so starved of this validation IRL they are desperately trying to squeeze a drop of it out of Social Life Simulator. Nice try losers

Ancient Problemz's avatar

I like DW but I agree on the pathology of posting about parenting vs parenting—there’s a validation mechanism occurring. The amount of interesting material the parenting thing turns out my be lost on my as a DINK but I suspect that if I had three kids I would get the point after a week or two. Maybe they feel the same about my writing.

JS.Hardy's avatar

I don't remember the article being about parenting much when I read it? And I also don't mean this as any kind of personal attack against DW. But I did hate the article very much

stretch23's avatar

Going along to get along is the preferred mode, including the sanctioned opposition against "Kings." If only we could get rid of that guy who thinks he's a king! Then we'd have our Democracy back!

Anna's avatar

Yes. I find it difficult to trust and understand those who think Costco is the fruit of a great system.

Ancient Problemz's avatar

I don’t want Costco to go away but if I have to choose between my compassion for criminals or getting toothpaste without having to summon someone dying of enui, I’d be okay with dropping them in the ocean or deporting them.

Anna's avatar

and yes booting is needed for healing

Anna's avatar

It’s spiritual aesthetic assault. When people will drive to a warehouse (they have paid to enter) and when leaving to show someone at the door their receipt for the big box of waffles or whatever, things have gone wrong and have been going wrong for too long.

Ancient Problemz's avatar

I would far prefer my CVS adopt Costco protocols than take Costco away from people.

antislopicus's avatar

Brilliant.

Cylinder_Unharmed's avatar

Absolute trvth nvke

PigeonReligion's avatar

I really like this one a lot!

Then I was wondering what your political angle is, I know you are right wing, though don’t know in which way, also that you like Yarvin… so bring back the monarchy?

Ancient Problemz's avatar

Thank you! I’m not trying to use this piece as a springboard for ideology or what to do but I’m for things that work. Solution oriented. What is the product of your actions? Conversely, Wisconsin does have a very bureaucratic way of looking at this, that if you are following protocols, processes, the practice itself is good in and of itself, (even though you might be operating a kitten-shredder for a living, or more likely generating spreadsheets reflecting everything going on at the factory).

While it’s true people who can’t take care of others should be encouraged to take care of themselves and eventually others if they can handle it, I’m not going to go around congratulating people for being normal when I don’t see what I should congratulate them for.

Idk if anyone you don’t know or like that well has tried to tell you a story about a child under the age of ten but they’re usually extremely interesting for the person talking but you’ll find there’s almost never a story at all. This is especially evident if you don’t know the kid they’re talking about and don’t have a cute picture to go off of. They’re just recalling a memory in their head the way your computer can call up a jpeg. Good for them but why do you need my participation in your feels?

People do need to be encouraged to test themselves and go to their highest heights but nothing would make me want to be like a normie than their running things well and right now, things are run like shit.

PigeonReligion's avatar

That makes sense, your description of bureaucracy especially reminds me of the religious/mystical ‘good intentions’ cop out, that if you do something with good intentions that it doesn’t really matter what the outcome is so long as you followed your heart. With that logic the thought behind something becomes more important than it’s manifested material. And so no wonder our material reality is a mess right now, we thought we could just think it into being good as opposed to making it good

Ancient Problemz's avatar

Processes everywhere for those with eyes to see.

Willy's avatar

I'm tall, white, can't dunk so I lift and build shit and coach little league. men can do things and we need to remember that, and if we never knew it, we best get busy.

But this is a clarion reminder to all the consensus that we chased "normal" to get to. I share plenty of guilt in going along to get along.

"Normal" was re-framed thru the lens of Katherine Maher's "consensus" TED talk.

So now that we're at the end of this dead-end road, and have normalized the abnormal of the before-times, we're just accepting what we intrinsically knew coming out of the womb. "normal" is a booby prize. I don't care for it. I don't possess it, neither do you, neither does my county representative who's torn up the same high-traffic intersection a mile from my house three times now in two years while not building the fire department station that's been in plan up the road for three years now, after the slop fake Asian market that used to inhabit the structure , somehow burned it down.

Mark Birdsall's avatar

I can't tell...is Costco the final boss of collectivism in your worldview?

Zorost's avatar

"...with a minority of them eventually taking the bold position of being “against kings,” when no such office nor executive actions exist."

yet...

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"...many single men and women had their economic and sexual prospects dashed, which is the one-two combo that traditionally creates jihadis, men with nothing to live for, who take revenge out on society."

Brilliant line.

My theory is that the only thing holding society together is readily accessible porn and weed. If the feminists who just last week realized that faux pussy decreases the value of real pussy succeed in getting it banned, all bets are off. It'll be like Prohibition, where women banned alcohol so their husbands would come home instead of going to the bar but instead spawned organized crime, except instead of organized crime it will spawn organized razzias and chevauchees.

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One thing I'll leave everyone with, that is the closest thing to a ray of hope considering all that you say is true, is a quote from a wise man:

"Revolution is a spectator sport. Most will sit on the sidelines, then cheer whoever wins."